In 2009, after the compilation of the WLIB Councillor Joan Sellars's archives, 205 questions were compiled in an attempt to achieve cast in stone accountability within the Williams Lake Indian Band. These are those same questions being reposted. Since 2009, in the absence of any band membership approved financial bylaws, Chief Ann Louie, Multi Millionaire Richard Sellars, Heather McKenzie, have all refused to answer these detailed questions and continue to unilaterally spend millions in band revenue.
www.scribd.com/doc/120335136/2009-03-21-205-questions-4-council-
Monday, January 14, 2013
Thursday, January 10, 2013
WLIB - FNLAB $2,000,000 Land Code
This Land Code Bylaw is a template from Westbanks Land Code
http://www.scribd.com/doc/119838160
If this is good enough for FNLAB Chairman Robert Louie, then it should be good enough as a starting point in our band
There are 11 codes on the FNLAB website and the first 5 are templates, the other are of the same template and how much was spent on these codes to end up as templated.
We are receiving almost 1 million a year to develop this document and most of that money is going to consultant and lawyers
The rest is going to the chief's son Byron Louie ( My half brother ) and Kirk Dressler, ( Ex - Westbank Indian Band Employee ) to fly around the country over the next year and a half to develop a code for the band.
It took me 3 days to develop this code.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/119838160
If this is good enough for FNLAB Chairman Robert Louie, then it should be good enough as a starting point in our band
There are 11 codes on the FNLAB website and the first 5 are templates, the other are of the same template and how much was spent on these codes to end up as templated.
We are receiving almost 1 million a year to develop this document and most of that money is going to consultant and lawyers
The rest is going to the chief's son Byron Louie ( My half brother ) and Kirk Dressler, ( Ex - Westbank Indian Band Employee ) to fly around the country over the next year and a half to develop a code for the band.
It took me 3 days to develop this code.
WLIB Band Meeting Procedure Bylaw
This Band Meeting Bylaw is so long in the making, 1995 - present
Chief and Council still won’t develop one with the millions of band revenue they are unilaterally spending so I went ahead and made my own
This draft bylaw should be good enough because it is the exact same as the one used by the Mayor and Council of Williams Lake.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/119837860/2013-01-10-WLIB-prcdr-bylw-final
If this is not good enough for Chief Ann Louie, Councillors Rick Gilbert, Heather McKenzie and Multi Millioinaire Councillor Richard Sellars to follow, then maybe it is time to shut down the band office
I sent this to Councillor William Sellars Jr and have still received no response
Chief and Council still won’t develop one with the millions of band revenue they are unilaterally spending so I went ahead and made my own
This draft bylaw should be good enough because it is the exact same as the one used by the Mayor and Council of Williams Lake.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/119837860/2013-01-10-WLIB-prcdr-bylw-final
If this is not good enough for Chief Ann Louie, Councillors Rick Gilbert, Heather McKenzie and Multi Millioinaire Councillor Richard Sellars to follow, then maybe it is time to shut down the band office
I sent this to Councillor William Sellars Jr and have still received no response
Friday, July 3, 2009
No community consultation for a 10% counter-offer.
Who are the chiefs negotiating on behalf of???
Half of our memberships for our 4 bands are off-reserve, when were we or better yet, when are we going to be consulted in regards to "asking" for 10% of our traditional territory back?
When will the collective Secwepemc Nation agree to the carving up and selling off of Secwepemculecw?
Once again I ask, where is the publicly outraged southern Secwepemc's opposition to the fraudulent 5% bc 'treaty' Process?
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Williams Lake Tribune - July 02, 2009
The Northern Secwepemc te Qelmucw (NStQ) have made a counteroffer to the provincial and federal governments as part of the ongoing treaty process.
At a public information session late last week in Williams Lake, chief provincial negotiator Roger Graham said the counteroffer had come the morning before.
The counteroffer is for roughly 10 times the amount of land in the government’s offer, and from three-and-a-half to four times the amount of cash. Graham did not offer specific numbers.
NStQ principal negotiator Jim Doswell said the land counteroffer was about eight per cent of the NStQ traditional territory, which stretches from the north end of Quesnel Lake almost to Clinton, and from just east of Alexis Creek to Wells Gray Park.
Doswell said the governments’ original offer was for less than one per cent of the NStQ traditional territory, and noted that half of the $42 million in cash offered by the government would go back to federal government in debt.
Under the treaty process, the First Nation borrows 80 per cent of the funds needed to negotiate the treaty.
In a confidential offer made in February, the governments offered approximately 50,081 hectares of provincial Crown land, the transfer of title of approximately 11,668 hectares of existing NStQ reserve lands to a NStQ government, a capital transfer of $30 million to the NStQ government paid out over a number of years, and a $12-million land fund to allow the NStQ to purchase private land on a willing buyer/willing seller basis.
“Clearly we have some very wide differences, but we will take the time to do the work to move forward,” Graham said, adding he hoped to hold more public meetings in the future.
“We have made fairly significant process,” Graham told the 40 people in attendance at the information session.
“We hope to bring this to the agreement-in-principle in the near to medium future.”
He said the treaty process with the NStQ — made up of the Canim Lake Band, Williams Lake Band, Camnoe Cree/Dog Creek Band, and the Soda Creek Band — began in 1994.
See FIRST, page A2
\The process is at the fourth of five stages, where the three parties work to sign an agreement-in-principle on the general terms of land and cash to be offered. After that, the parties start final treaty negotiations, a process that could take another two years to complete.
The lands ultimately accepted in the treaty become Treaty Settlement Lands (TSL), owned and governed by the First Nation. The Canadian constitution, the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, the Criminal Code, and other general federal and provincial laws would would still apply on TSL. The First Nation would have a democratic government with a constitution, and would have law-making authority over its members and resources on TSL, and would make decisions in such areas as health, education, and child welfare. It would be able to levy taxes and fees and to negotiate with other governments.
Graham said Canada and B.C have agreed to explore revenue-sharing with the NStQ.
Before a treaty can come into effect, a “significant” percentage of NStQ’s members must agree to it, and it must be approved in legislation by the provincial and federal governments.
“Our intention is to negotiate until we have a treaty,” Doswell said. “There has to be a resolution to this — we’re here today because there is no certainty over the land we stand on today.”
In response to concerns over grazing tenures and the ability for the public to use TSL for recreation, he said there should not be problems.
“It is not the intention of the First Nation to disrupt those tenures,” he said. “We don’t see any need to upset the current structure as long as there is a clear understanding that they are transferred at the value based on their use.”
He said there would be permitting structures put in place for recreational use.
Federal negotiator Ray Peterson said recreational activities will continue where the land is not otherwise private, similar to provisions in the Tsawwassen and Maa-nulth treaties.
Graham said he did not have a dollar figure on how much the process has cost so far — the NStQ were among the first to signal their intent to sign a treaty under the process — but said it has been “significant.”
Who are the chiefs negotiating on behalf of???
Half of our memberships for our 4 bands are off-reserve, when were we or better yet, when are we going to be consulted in regards to "asking" for 10% of our traditional territory back?
When will the collective Secwepemc Nation agree to the carving up and selling off of Secwepemculecw?
Once again I ask, where is the publicly outraged southern Secwepemc's opposition to the fraudulent 5% bc 'treaty' Process?
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Williams Lake Tribune - July 02, 2009
The Northern Secwepemc te Qelmucw (NStQ) have made a counteroffer to the provincial and federal governments as part of the ongoing treaty process.
At a public information session late last week in Williams Lake, chief provincial negotiator Roger Graham said the counteroffer had come the morning before.
The counteroffer is for roughly 10 times the amount of land in the government’s offer, and from three-and-a-half to four times the amount of cash. Graham did not offer specific numbers.
NStQ principal negotiator Jim Doswell said the land counteroffer was about eight per cent of the NStQ traditional territory, which stretches from the north end of Quesnel Lake almost to Clinton, and from just east of Alexis Creek to Wells Gray Park.
Doswell said the governments’ original offer was for less than one per cent of the NStQ traditional territory, and noted that half of the $42 million in cash offered by the government would go back to federal government in debt.
Under the treaty process, the First Nation borrows 80 per cent of the funds needed to negotiate the treaty.
In a confidential offer made in February, the governments offered approximately 50,081 hectares of provincial Crown land, the transfer of title of approximately 11,668 hectares of existing NStQ reserve lands to a NStQ government, a capital transfer of $30 million to the NStQ government paid out over a number of years, and a $12-million land fund to allow the NStQ to purchase private land on a willing buyer/willing seller basis.
“Clearly we have some very wide differences, but we will take the time to do the work to move forward,” Graham said, adding he hoped to hold more public meetings in the future.
“We have made fairly significant process,” Graham told the 40 people in attendance at the information session.
“We hope to bring this to the agreement-in-principle in the near to medium future.”
He said the treaty process with the NStQ — made up of the Canim Lake Band, Williams Lake Band, Camnoe Cree/Dog Creek Band, and the Soda Creek Band — began in 1994.
See FIRST, page A2
\The process is at the fourth of five stages, where the three parties work to sign an agreement-in-principle on the general terms of land and cash to be offered. After that, the parties start final treaty negotiations, a process that could take another two years to complete.
The lands ultimately accepted in the treaty become Treaty Settlement Lands (TSL), owned and governed by the First Nation. The Canadian constitution, the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, the Criminal Code, and other general federal and provincial laws would would still apply on TSL. The First Nation would have a democratic government with a constitution, and would have law-making authority over its members and resources on TSL, and would make decisions in such areas as health, education, and child welfare. It would be able to levy taxes and fees and to negotiate with other governments.
Graham said Canada and B.C have agreed to explore revenue-sharing with the NStQ.
Before a treaty can come into effect, a “significant” percentage of NStQ’s members must agree to it, and it must be approved in legislation by the provincial and federal governments.
“Our intention is to negotiate until we have a treaty,” Doswell said. “There has to be a resolution to this — we’re here today because there is no certainty over the land we stand on today.”
In response to concerns over grazing tenures and the ability for the public to use TSL for recreation, he said there should not be problems.
“It is not the intention of the First Nation to disrupt those tenures,” he said. “We don’t see any need to upset the current structure as long as there is a clear understanding that they are transferred at the value based on their use.”
He said there would be permitting structures put in place for recreational use.
Federal negotiator Ray Peterson said recreational activities will continue where the land is not otherwise private, similar to provisions in the Tsawwassen and Maa-nulth treaties.
Graham said he did not have a dollar figure on how much the process has cost so far — the NStQ were among the first to signal their intent to sign a treaty under the process — but said it has been “significant.”
Thursday, April 23, 2009
April 07, 2009 Band Meeting Minutes (unaudited)
Band Meeting - April 07, 2009
Topic - WLIB Opposition's March 21, 2009 DVD
Council up to old, old ( So 1990's ) tricks - 7 hours notice for a band meeting ( What is the definition for Duly Convened ??? ) I remember August 10, 1995 was the same thing...
How can off-reserve members participate in a meeting with 7 hours notice ???
Councillor / Multi – Millionaire Richard Sellars again suspiciously / conveniently "SICK"
No answers to Sugar Cane Petroleum's $500,000 a year leakage here...
Various comments: "CHARGE THEM!!!!!" is always a regime favourite.
Charge WLIB Opposition for what?? Giving the WLIB membership back their own papers???
"They ( Arnie Jack / WLIB Opposition ) stole those papers"
The band documents contained on the DVD disk were courtesy of Councillor Joan Sellars' Archives. Arnie Jack was her oldest living descendent. Arnie inherited those documents, nobody else wanted them, they sat in Joan Sellars’ house for 6 months after her passing. On February 21,2009 Chief Anne Louie was personally informed that this collection was being compiled. She said nothing. Upon inheritance, Arnie's view has always been that these documents belong to the people.
Two cops were there, most likely for intimidation.
Secondly for threat assessment, the members can't destabilize a chief and council who are so pro – treaty!!!
RCMP send leg soldiers out to band meetings so these leg soldiers can't answer questions about the Federal Financial Act / bc Corporations Act and how it applies to continued WLIB Chief and Council Band Revenue unilateral spending in the continued absence of DULY - CONVENED WLIB Financial By - Laws.
Stay tuned for an updated version of the March 21, 2009 – 3.74 gb DVD
Topic - WLIB Opposition's March 21, 2009 DVD
Council up to old, old ( So 1990's ) tricks - 7 hours notice for a band meeting ( What is the definition for Duly Convened ??? ) I remember August 10, 1995 was the same thing...
How can off-reserve members participate in a meeting with 7 hours notice ???
Councillor / Multi – Millionaire Richard Sellars again suspiciously / conveniently "SICK"
No answers to Sugar Cane Petroleum's $500,000 a year leakage here...
Various comments: "CHARGE THEM!!!!!" is always a regime favourite.
Charge WLIB Opposition for what?? Giving the WLIB membership back their own papers???
"They ( Arnie Jack / WLIB Opposition ) stole those papers"
The band documents contained on the DVD disk were courtesy of Councillor Joan Sellars' Archives. Arnie Jack was her oldest living descendent. Arnie inherited those documents, nobody else wanted them, they sat in Joan Sellars’ house for 6 months after her passing. On February 21,2009 Chief Anne Louie was personally informed that this collection was being compiled. She said nothing. Upon inheritance, Arnie's view has always been that these documents belong to the people.
Two cops were there, most likely for intimidation.
Secondly for threat assessment, the members can't destabilize a chief and council who are so pro – treaty!!!
RCMP send leg soldiers out to band meetings so these leg soldiers can't answer questions about the Federal Financial Act / bc Corporations Act and how it applies to continued WLIB Chief and Council Band Revenue unilateral spending in the continued absence of DULY - CONVENED WLIB Financial By - Laws.
Stay tuned for an updated version of the March 21, 2009 – 3.74 gb DVD
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